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Remember that stamp I made about "Fandom Has No Gender," and I told you that it is really sexist that people can accept girls being Transformer fangirls, but when it comes to guys being bronies (MLP fanboys) they found it creepy or a sign of homosexuality?

The same thing goes with making OCs:

If a girl makes an attractive female OC, they (mostly female haters) instantly labled that OC as a "MS," but if the girl creates a handsome male OC, the female haters are okay with that and accept the male OC.

Same goes with guys hating a male character a male deviant creates, but love the female OCs the guy artist created.

Get this through your heads everyone, there's no such thing as "Mary-Sues" or "Gary-Stus"! Only good characters, bad characters, bland characters, minor characters, fan-made characters, and over-used character traits.:no:


I mean whatever happened to the original concept of characters being someone we can look up to, and wish to be like them?

Most characters like the comic-book heroes, fairy-tale princesses, and many more are suppose be like that because they are not real, but we can learn from (most) of them.

As for the crazy hair and eye colors, what's wrong with being a little creative on that?  And fancy-words just make the character sound interesting, it would be boring if the traits were just like any other people you see everyday.


And who says that a character can't be imaginatve but still have realistic flaws and personality?


It's okay to hate a character if they a trait that irks you (like being mean, rude, slutty, etc.), but you can't go off hating a hating a character in just a blink of an eye without getting to know them first.


As for making some characters like/love ones' OC, you can't stop that. Everyone going to do that trait once in a while (no matter how over-rated it is).

The canon characters don't belong to any of you haters, so you can't go off telling what characters should be paired with and not be paired with. It's just the artists' imagination and opinions just for the sack of fun and creativity.
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Mogwai1988 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree on the fandom thing.

Not so much on the points you making on the OC's. Here's my honest opinion on that.
Yes a character can be made with certain flaws, a personality and super awesome powers and it still can be a realistic character. But everything about that character has to be balanced out to look realistic otherwise they will become one dimensional and that's when it's more likely that your OC will develope in a Mary sue.

I quote wikipedia: A Mary Sue (sometimes just Sue), in literary criticism and particularly in fanfiction, is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as a wish-fulfillment fantasy for the author or reader. It is generally accepted as a character whose positive aspects overwhelm their other traits until they become one-dimensional.

Meaning if your character is unbalanced and has more positive traits that seems to overwhelm the negative ones, then that character fall under the Mary Sue label/term/catagory whatever you would like to call it. :shrug:

Fictional characters, be it fanmade or original, are not meant to look up to or even be like. They are created either for the amusement of the author/artist or for the amusement of the audience. Yes sometimes characters can make a good point accros to the audience and we can learn from that, but not because of the character itself but because of the whole situation the character is in and how he/she would react to that.

Finaly yes I agree the whole canon character X OC can not be avoided. But only when a fanOC is made right and is interacting the propper way with the canoncharacter and by that I mean that you should ask yourself the following question all the time. "How would the X canon character really react when my fan OC says/does this or that?"

Tl;DR: In conclussion, if either fancharacters of original characters aren't balanced out enough and their positive traits overshadow the negative traits, then the term Mary Sue may be used. So yes there is such a thing as a Mary Sue / Gary Stu.
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Blinklight Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
This.
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Mogwai1988 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your argument was better though. :B
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rose2889 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2012
You make a really good point there. Good job!
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KessieLou Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks.
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AnimatedTigerGirl Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2012
When will they learn.:roll:
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KessieLou Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:shrug::no:
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AnimatedTigerGirl Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012
*Sigh* We can only hope, right?
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crabula290e Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2012
yeah, you go girl! tell them the truth!


(i wasn't really sure what to say)
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KessieLou Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks.
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